Best hodgdon powder for 20 gauge He previously concocted some outrageous 28-gauge Lil’ Gun loads, which proved to be near 100% game-effective. 7/8. This propellant delivers true magnum velocities, resulting in superb patterns. I also find Longshot a good powder in the 28 and 20 gauge. 7/8 oz. 9 gr powder, NSSA max shot at 383 gr, Win 209 primer. Save Share Reply Quote Like. And it would be. Just my take on it, I could be completly wrong, but I bet not! BP Alliant Powder Guide list load data for Green Dot powder for the 20 gauge Federal hull. WSF also looks like a great powder for 20 ga. The Federal 20S1 or equivalent. 04% Shipping Notice. Currently I have 8 lbs of International and do like the load with that powder but when you start looking at burn rates it should feasable with lighter loads if Alliant shows a load with Red dot. Price is better than others, fits well in the case, performs well when fired. This situation A Hodgdon press release states the powder has the correct burn rate to create a 31⁄4 dram equivalent, 11⁄4 ounce, 1,330 fps 12-gauge load with any brand of case. This propellant is perfect for competitor shooting including for games like Both these powders are far too fast burning for any 20 ga. loads also. It cannot be used in 7/8 oz. Member of: Algoma Rod and Gun Club, CCFR and NFA. For the skeet field it will be no benefit at all. I look every day for Hodgdon Universal. I would not even consider using a fast burning powder like Clays in my 20 gauges! There are no recipes listed by Hodgdon for a reason - Buy Unique in the 8 lber's to save money/time going to the store and use 2400 powder with CCI 209's in the . Hodgdon International Clays Wad: Win. 410 hulls. Sort by Oldest first Top Contributors this Month View All. Also check out Pro-Reach on Longshot is a good 1 1/16 and 1 1/8oz powder in the 16 gauge and the Remington wad is a good choice. an issue to ponder. than Longshot. A good thread on 5/8 oz load with Green Dot by gc4895. * Good luck finding a WAA20F1. Save Share Hodgdon shows data for International, Universal, Long Shot, 800X, 700X, SR4756, PB, IMR Green, Win572 I have used Winchester 572 in 20 gauge and 28 gauge. For heavy Hunting loads Longshot is the best choice for both gauges and it happens that Longshot is currently available in 8 lbs bottles at Powder Valley. Not quite 3/4oz but you know Still nice The extra shot fills out the hulls well so I can see needing a cheerio with this slightly reduced load. Either of these powders are way too fast for 7/8 oz loads in AA and Remington cases, and it's use should be avoided. Great loads in 10 ga. 20 gauge winchester AA hulls A shooting club not too far from me is selling Perfect Pattern for $232. So far I have only tried it in 20 gauge in a That's good news. 5 gr Green Dot 7/8 ounce loads. load behind 7/8 oz of shot was generating excesive pressure. I load 7/8 ounce in STS hulls and 1 ounce in the AA's with Blue Dot& a SP20 wad for the 1 ounce. of shot in a 20 ga. Jump to Latest I'm using 1 oz 7. I really like to use a different powder for each gauge. Everyone can say they use a 12 or 20 gauge but if they ask me I'll gladly say I use a 16 gauge Remington Model 11 1936 Skeet model 16 ga Hodgdon Longshot shotgun powder is a versatile spherical shotshell propellant ideal for heavy field loads with superb patterns. SkyscraperCity 880K members Hodgdon even posted that information at one time. 1200 fps shells using Hodgdon Titegroup. 209A WAA20 18. Hodgdon data has nothing for 700X in 20 gauge. $37. Improved pressure testing methods showed that the old 14 gr. Smokeless Powder Designed for 28-gauge shotguns, it’s also a solid choice for 20, 16, and even 12-gauge shooters. There are plenty of 12 gauge 1 oz loads on the Hodgdon website, not sure there is specific RIO hull data. Wish we had 20/28 good luck. Produces 1,250 Green Dot is really a 12 gauge powder, though in the past some considered it sutiable for 20 target loads. Hodgdon. International powder is permissable in 3/4 oz. Good luck. Across a case of powder (250 rounds), you’re only using an additional 500gr of powder. 20 gauge loads for Hodgdon's Titewad powder? "And remember, think safety first and then have a good hunt. Looking over Hodgdon's Jan 2013 Guide I found the following for Rem STS 20 ga: Win 209, Rem RXP20, 13. I bought this to load 7/8 ounce 12 gauge loads. 5 grains of powder. I also tried 20/28 powder with equally good results. My only complaint, which really isn’t a concern is it is pretty dirty but barrel cleans right up. BPI Buckshot manual lists Steel as a powder for heavy 20 gauge payloads. I have tried most of the The DRXXL pink wad seems to work the best. Our favorite hulls are the Winchester Super Target and Federal Top Gun. Hodgdon Universal is actually a much better 20 ga powder if you don't have to have loads at 1250 and above. He no longer shoots, and has not reloaded for years. If you move to a 3/4 oz load, Green Dot comes into play. AVS Forum 1. One exception being for 410 I use h110/ww296. and 1 1/8 oz. Great field loads in 10 ga. Some of the cartridges you can use Hodgdon powder with include . They're both published loads at Hodgdon. target loads. 5 grains with WinAA20 using Feb209A primers, don't show Win209. hull. See the bird, Shoot the bird! Have always used The 3/4 ounce loads listed for 20 and 12g are also on Hodgdons site listed under youth loads along with assorted rifle loads. Hodgdon's Longshot is another, (although I'm not fond of it). 7 grains Go see for yourself, no BS here! I admit the printed manual does not have nay data for the 20 ga In shotshell HS-6 yields excellent heavy field loadings in 10 ga. There is no telling how many 100's that have been shot with 14-14. 45-70: 1. For example, Hodgdon Universal Clays and For field loads in 12 gauge I really like Longshot, despite it's very LOUD report. Pick one and go with it. I won't run far. 5 to 4 plus grains of Longshot more. I shot trap with a 20 Gauge for around 6 months before I got my first 12 Gauge and IIRC, I used Winchester AA hulls, WAA20 wads, 7/8 oz. Turkinator 182 Replies. Remington STS Primer: Remington 209P Does anyone have a favorite sub-gauge tube safe 20 gauge 7/8 oz target load using Winchester Superfield powder (WSF) and Cheddite primers? Hodgdon's published loads with Winchester 209s are at 11000 psi at 1200 fps. Seriously good stuff. Great field loads in 10 gauge, 12 gauge, 16 gauge, 20 gauge, and 28 gauge are shown herein. HS-6 is truly an outstanding spherical propellant and identical to Winchester's discontinued 540. Hodgon doesn't show any data for a 20 gauge load with 700x powder and Remington I load the 3/4 oz 20 gauge in a Win "AA" hull. com Both will serve you well. 209A WAA20 17. 20 ga loads using AA or Rem. The 20/28 is a very small grained flake powder that meters very consistantly through the presses and is a little denser than Unique, making it a superb powder for the 28 ga. Recoil is cumulative, and as we grow older, we realize we do not 20 GAUGE, 2 3/4" WINCHESTER COMPRESSION-FORMED AA TYPE SHELLS Hodgdon Powder Company 6231 Robinson Street Shawnee Mission, KS 66202 913-362-9455 100611JH. Hodgdon's Universal is a good one. 0 $ 0. shot and 16 I am with lt0026 if you are going to use them in 20 gauge shotgun, not using sub gauge tubes. WAD: CSD20 (4 slits) + 14C28 + 18FW20 (cushion) in the wad base. Available in 1 lb. But Hodgdon Universal. 616 Fed. His recipe: 20ga WW-HS, Fiocci Primer, 5/8oz #9, CB 1075-20 3/4oz wad, 13. When I use a powder for a load, I like to not have unburnt kernels in the barrel, ie that's a clean burn to me 20 Gauge (Hodgdon Data): 2 3/4" Cheddite Plastic Shells: 34: 20 Gauge (Hodgdon Data): 2 3/4" Federal Plastic Target Shells: 42: 20 Gauge (Hodgdon Data): 2 3/4" Remington RXP, Premier and STS Plastic Shells: 13: 20 Gauge (Hodgdon Data): 2 3/4" Winchester Compression-Formed AA Type Plastic Shells: 20 I have been loading 20 ga, 7/8 oz in Win AA hulls using 16. Longshot also makes a great high velocity trap load. 20/28 also works well in the 28, and is more economical. And Perfect Pattern sits at relative burn It is also a great powder for 20 gauge. Reactions: desmobob and Supertex1978. As a 20 ga powder, Sir, you are fooling yourself. 5 gr WSF powder, WWAA 20 or CB1078-20 wads and a Win 209 primer which apparently duplicates the factory load @ 1200 FPS and 11,200 PSI. Posted by Wayne Alford Stadtler on Nov 26th 2021 Great Powder. Winchester Super Field is a ball powder, the propellant of choice for Winchester 20-gauge AA Target loads. 1 1 oz 20 gauge load with longshot. 5 grains of Longshot powder in a load!!! The Only Problem Is, you have to load it with 7/8 oz. Books I consult say HS 6 or blue dot but there are other candidates. loads as well as the faster 1 oz. loads only and for my money is simply too fast burning to begin with. My target is to have a good powder for 1150 fps. They've been out of production for years. Note, I . 7 gr Hodgdon International I go to Herco and Blue Dot. The top results for this search contain Hi looking for 7/8 target load for Winchester super target powder load for a 20 gauge. Sort by Oldest first Oldest first Newest first Most reactions. 616 WAA20 18. Title: several hundred once fired federal 20 ga hulls and twice as many 12ga fiocchi hulls and even more Winchester 12ga hulls; View attachment 7112. 410 bore. WAA20 Shot: 3/4 oz. 8 9,900 PSI For those of you that load with Hodgdon powder and Remington hulls, the following loads using Hodgdon Uni-versal Clays were very low recoiling and very effective on skeet targets. Super Field also performs well in 9MM, 38 Super and 40 S&W pistol loads. 308 Winchester, 6. I would suggest using the Windjammer Blue 20 ga. Reactions: I was in search of a powder that I could load both 28 gauge and 20 gauge. Silhouette shooters claim it I used Gun Club hulls, Win 209, and Claybuster 1078-20 wads. - Good hulls. Actually, the only powder available for reloading 20 ga is Hodgdon Longshot. , 20 ga. It works nicely too. Refine by No filters applied. However, Winchester AA wads did crimp well. Like 500+ grains @ 1200+ fps. Hodgdon/St Marks did not design the latest new canister powder (Perfect Pattern) by just guessing Hodgdon Powder offers the largest selection of quality smokeless propellants for any reloading application. it's a whole bunch slower, as in "good 20 or 28 gauge powder". BTW---Unique is also a great 16,28 and 12 gauge powder :wink: Through advanced technology, Hodgdon Powder Co. jug from Powder Valley de defray the Hazmat and shipping charges and because you can also use this powder for the 28 gauge. It WILL work in the 20 ga. 5 g of 571 3/4 oz shot Win 209 primer WAA28 wad 11,000 LUP Pressure 1260 fps (As above with 19. Great loads in 28-, 20-, 16- and 12-gauge are shown in Hodgdons Reloading Data Center. HS-6 is truly an outstanding spherical propellant and identical to Winchester’s discontinued 540. At one time there was some 20 gauge load data for 7/8 oz loads @ 1100 FPS. Quick view Compare . Hodgdon powders are in short supply in my area currently. I still run into HS-7 here and there. Frank This new spherical shotshell powder is the most versatile heavy field propellant Hodgdon has ever produced. hull!!! For skeet, I would go with a one oz. 40 S&W: 1. 5 Grains. Save Share Although Hodgdon no longer recommends Int'l Clays loads at 7/8 oz for tubesets. Shot my best score using the same load for skeet. Then along came plastic wads which changed everything. 616 Windjammer 17. It isn't just a pistol powder. tubes. Add 7% tax to that price OTD!!! So its priced about the same as the High Gun powder I bought a month or so ago. I haven't loaded 20 ga. 5’s, sevens, sixes, or fives and watch destroyed H110 is the spherical powder that screams "no wimps, please!", delivering top velocities with great accuracy in 44 Magnum, 454 Casull, 475 Linebaugh and the 460 and 500 S&W magnums. 5 gr. Hodgdon Powder offers the largest selection of quality smokeless propellants for any reloading application. Which can be bad for 20 ga. 38 Special: 1. 575 inch RB mold for $20 from MidSouth shooters a double cavity mold, can't beat that price. 43. Universal amd Unique have been the most used favorites for years and are still the most preferred for this use. Following that by several years 20/28 was introduced by Alliant which is a great powder for 20 and 28 gauges, but for a little higher velocity, Longshot is better. Browse by & Category Hide Filters Show Filters Category Triple Seven® FFFG Granular Powder. Hodgdon's website has great data. I strongly suspect the same situation exists with Hodgdon Universal too. A pound powder contains 7,000 grains of powder, so not even 10% extra across a case of ammo. There is another powder coming on line that is going to be a superb powder in 20 and 28 gauges. In shotgun, it titewad powder is designed for 12 gauge only, meters superbly and is ideal for 7/8, 1 and 1 1/8 ounce loads. To view, Google Alliant Powder Guide. This also keeps down mistakes in powder mixing. of good hard 7. checked Hodgdon's web site and they list loads for 1oz loads for Rem, Win, and Federal hulls. Great loads in 28-, 20-, 16- and 12-gauge are shown in Hodgdon’s Reloading Data Center. You wont make a mistake if you buy either one. loads. Start there, pick a powder that covers everything. Every reloader needs a good powder scale and they are not very expensive. and even 1 1/4 oz. Does the 3/4oz make 20 gauge load make the 28 gauge redundant. I just got a good amount of HS-6. Turkinator 212 Replies. ) Clays International is a good powder for the 20ga Hodgdon Universal is my first choice, International being second choice for 20 ga. Hodgdon's International or Universal are good candidates as is Alliant's Unique with 12 gauge 1-1/8 and 20 gauge 7/8 ounce shot charges. What would one use such shells for? Save Share Reply Quote Like. 20 ga. , but Win 572 and Longshot look to have good application there. I've been using 15. I suggested that he try Alliant 20/28 (my favorite for the 20 gauge), but since he has this big keg of $100+ 700X powder he wants to just use it up for ALL his shotshell reloading without going out and spending another $100+ on different powder. loads back in the 60's. 5 shot, longshot powder, and WAA20F1 and Remington SP20 wads. The superb burning characteristics of this powder produce soft, smooth recoil, ultra clean burning, mild muzzle report, and excellent patterns. AA CF hull with 3/4 oz. WAD = Remington RXP20 (or equivalent CB 1078-20, DownRange DVR-20 WAD) POWDER = Hodgdon UNIVERSAL 16. Most shotgun shooters are aware of the danger of inserting a 20-gauge shotshell into a 12-gauge gun. HM . Skeet special bar just does not drop enough shot for a easy crimp. It would be marginal in 28 gauge and an untenably giant leap to 20 gauge. , 1 oz. For 7/8 oz target loads, If you’re interested in a light 20 gauge reload, seriously consider using 3/4 oz of shot. Reactions: Kevin Fleming. 0g of 571 = 1200 fps at 10,200 LUP) Works for the 20 ga and the 28 ga. 0 10,600 PSI 1,225 Hodgdon Universal Fio. I shot a few this morning and took a nice big Crow As an example, the fastest 'relative burn rate' powder that Alliant lists for 7/8 Oz. lead payload. There are other powders you can use but for the heavier loads in the 16 Longshot is hard to beat. Mike Power NSSA 170504 Kill 'em all. nitro card or 1/8" 20 ga. Excellent propellant for action pistol applications. , 12 ga. Wondering if the experienced shooters on here might consider sharing their load for this application? For example, say a load for Blue Dot calls for 20gr of powder, and the same load for Longshot is 22gr. 5 Creedmoor, . OVERVIEW: Hodgdon Longshot Gun Powder. 2gr Green Dot, 1 cheerio (spacer) Only thing I can add is that a All American shooter on this site said that 20/28 is not a good powder for 20 ga. It also used to be very well priced and available every where, but this If I was not using 20/28 in both the 20 and 28 gauge WSF is the powder I would use in the 20 gauge 7/8 load. . shot loads, it's fine, but in 7/8 oz loads, it will normally exceed SAAMI maximum pressures and really is too fast burning for general use in the 20 ga. are shown herein. Designed for 28-gauge This spherical powder is a versatile shotshell propellant for heavy field loads, providing true magnum velocities with superb patterns. 5 lead shot; 200 fed209a primers; 2,000 Cheddite 209 primers; 3# longshot powder; 1# hs-6 powder; 1# tight wad powder; 500 clay buster waa20 7/8oz wads; 500 claybuster 700X & powders like Hercules Red Dot were the standard "Go To" 20 ga. For 1 oz field loads, I like Hodgdon Longshot. There is absolutely no good reason to not use the proper powders for the 20 ga. 616 WAA20 17. Powder: 12 gr. I just ordered some Longshot from Hodgdon, but plan to use it with 7/8 oz 20 gauge loads, and 28 gauge. loads so if you want to load both gauges it may not be a good powder for you (some others say its fine). I am looking to reload 20 ga by 1 oz loads. Jiodi Kirk NRA Endowment Member If you're flexible on the hull, primer, etc. Universal is Hodgdon's answer to Alliant's Unique. B. The powder is not the best but tough times. Probably shoots 8-10K rounds a year. Hodgdon has great reloading data on there website for all kinds of components. Vernon did not inform me what powder he was loading, but most of us use Alliant Unique, Alliant 20/28 or Hodgdon Universal Clays. Save Share From the Hodgdon marketing materials for HS-6: In shotshell, HS-6 yields excellent heavy field loadings in 28-, 20-, 12- and 10-gauge. 17. , 16 ga. in the first place. I found Longshot not too long ago. com Search Engine 2024. Clays, e3, Unique, Red Dot, 700X and many others double as pistol/shotgun powders. I want to use it to load for skeet. Just loaded some 20 gauge top gun hulls with 7/8 oz chilled #8. . but is far from the best for this purpose. AS a 12 ga powder, it's a good one. I really like 572 in 28 gauge. And additional plus for Longshot is that it can also be used for 20 and 28 gauge target loads if International is the 2nd in the Clays gunpowder series, bringing it to the 20-gauge reloader. Indian Head I have finally found a 20 gauge load using the Hodgdon Clays powder in my reloads that I like and has been proving in a hunting situation. I guessed he was using one of those powders. It will need testing. titewad powder 12 gauge, titewad powder 12 gauge load data, titewad powder 20 gauge, titewad powder 45 acp, titewad powder 9mm, titewad powder Hodgdon Powder offers the largest selection of quality smokeless propellants for any I'd bet the major powder companies have similar computer programs they use to both design the powder they make, and to test if that powder will actually work well in the types of cartridges or shotshells they expect to offer the powder for use in. The old data that I have from Win shows no 7/8 oz 20 ga loads just 1 oz and more. DLM . I'm trying to find some 20 gauge powder but all I have is 700x. In shotshell, HS-6 yields excellent heavy field loadings in 28-, 20-, 12- and 10-gauge. About 16 grains of Unique has been the standard 20 gauge 7/8 powder for a long, long time (right up until WW reduced the volume of the AA hull. Just looking at the data it looks like it can be used successfully though. 25# of no. ETA: Titegroup, because I don't have any right now but it's a great powder for light 12 gauge loads, especially with the 3/4 ounce claybuster You can use Hodgdon Longshot. 8 grains. Generally speaking, the powders that CAN be used for both 12 gauge and 20 gauge fall into the "slow-burning" category. 7x28mm: 1. They are a slower more appropriate powder for the heavier 20 ga loads. We both use 20 gauge Beretta autos. 10%: 19. 5 grains behind 3/4 oz of shot will be safe with most any primer that is not a Federal 209A or a CCI 209M in most any hull. N. (I still use Longshot, along with 20/28 for the 28 ga. In addition, LONGSHOT is the best choices for those competitors shooting “race” games such as “Buddy” shoots, “Annie Oakleys” and more. For the life of me I can't relocate the data. I'm curious if anyone has had good luck loading 1 ounce 20 gauge loads using Longshot powder. I CAN find data for a 3/4 ounce load, but I don't want to do that. and super target may be to fast for 20 ga ,go to the hodgdon reload data site and look up for your self and match the components you want to use , do the research before doing any reloading if there is no data for it it could I'd say that's more than just a hint that Lil'Gun is patently unsuitable for 20 gauge. It does work well in the 20 ga with a varity of loads. In addition, LONGSHOT is the best choice for those competitors shooting games such as Buddy, Annie Oakley and more. 785 is a magnum rifle powder. This is the gunpowder technique created for shooters using 28 gauge TB, The recipe I got was from Hodgdon's website or orange dusters website, I can't remember. Many good shotgun powders are also pistol powders. Hodgdon LONGSHOT spherical powder is the most versatile shotshell heavy field propellant Hodgdon has ever produced. Also Loads 3/4 oz 12 ga using 700x . 7/ I've used Win 572 and Longshot for heavy game loads (1 1/8 and up). It's a great powder, and was all I used in my ol' AAs. Both powders are ball type and slow burners. Another good powder that works well is Universal Clays in both 20 & 28 ga but I have also run into fit issues in the 28 ga with it too. In addition, LONGSHOT is the best choice for those competitors shooting games such as Buddy, Annie I use Hodgdon Longshot powder for all of my 1 ounce loads. 5,601. 622 posts · Joined 2011 Add to quote; Only show this user #6 By not having more then one on the shelf. 0 9,300 PSI 1,200 Hodgdon Universal Fio. It is the most clean burning , consistent 12 ga. 30-06 Springfield, 12-gauge, 20 gauge and . 11042 posts And there are LOTS of good recipes on the Hodgdon website. Faster burning powders work best in "light" payloads. I think it’s a fantastic powder for both, and it’s currently relatively available. Works great in all 20 and 28 ga. Jul 16, 2013 #12 SOMDSHOOT Banned. Case: 20 ga. 20/28 is basically a denser formulation of Unique. data for the RXP20, SP20, WAA20F1*, and 20S1. 09%: 20. For fast 3/4 oz loads there's Hodgdon Longshot. DLM It is hard to beat WW-super field powder for 20 gauge 7/8 ounce loads if you are using a WW AA20 wad as it fits in the case well because it is denser than most other 20 gauge powders. I won’t say it’s impossible, but 572 and Federal hulls will not be a good fit using most of the typical wads. Yes, it is considered safe to use those powders provided pressure does not exceed SAAMI max. Mag #8's or mag #9's on the standard 7/8 bar add just enough more shot to make these loads crimp much nicer. I save the more expensive 20/28 for my 28 ga. An outstanding skeet load. Shotshot and Cheddite is my go to load for 20 ga 7/8 oz target loads. ALL SALES ARE Here are some of our choices for best all-around shotgun powder: Hodgdon Universal Clays, or “Universal” for short, has a well-deserved reputation for being one of the most adaptable powders on the market. The first box I shot was loaded at an average of 16. (is intended for 12 & 20) however, Universal Clays is an excellent choice. Posted by Unknown on Nov 26th 2021 In pistol, 9mm, 38 Super, 40 S&W and 10mm Auto are some of the cartridges where HS-6 provides top performance. wads to choose from. From the data on the Hodgdon site, it looks like 20 gauge is right in that powder's wheelhouse. As for the original question, I use Alliant published loads of 20-28 powder in Rem STS hulls. shot. (the best 28 ga hull for reloading) the published recipes call for 14. Unique for years has been Two excellent 28 ga powders that no one mentioned are Win 540 ( now Hodgdon HS-6) and Win 571 (formerly Hodgdon HS-7) and no longer made. has produced a superior, flattened-spherical shotgun powder. and 8 lb Hodgdon. I’d buy it again. ) powder I have ever reloaded with. Products purchased on our site are NOT FOR RESALE. Quick view Compare Choose Options. Low pressure and minimal recoil. International Clays is not a good powder for the 28 ga. Skip to content. loads (lead) for 3 inch 20 gauge shells using 800X as the powder. powder available today. Even with the Federal 20S1 wad, there will be Have a good friend that been using 700x for his 20 ga for years. There is another Dot problem for 3gun - they are comparatively quite dirty due allegedly to the use of graphite NOTE!! The DOT powders, at least Reddot, was re-formulated to be cleaner in the last 2 years. I am new to reloading and have been reading as much as I can find on shotshell reloading. com 20 Gauge: 1. 1 oz in a 20 gauge, would be considered a Heavy Payload. Hodgdon lists 28 numerous loads in 12 gauge for Titegroup in its reloading manual. Being used in pistol shouldn't be an issue. , and even the efficient and effective 28 ga. Hodgdon has one ounce 20 ga. Hodgdon Universal Powder is designed to deliver versatile performance across various handgun and shotgun loads. The 20-gauge shotshell will lodge in the throat, leaving enough space behind it for a normal 12-gauge to load and fire. 5 9,400 PSI 1,200 Hodgdon Universal Fio. 5-18grains was the typical recipe. In addition, LONGSHOT is the best choice for those competitors shooting games As noted 571 was good for big payloads in 12 ga - 1 3/8 & 1 1/2 oz loads. I bought some Longshot powder at this same club 6 months ago, cheaper than I could buy the same powder on the internet. I use the Remington SP20 wad in the Remington hulls and the Federal 20S1 wad in the Federal hulls. However a good detailed methodical approach may be required to get the best answer for your project. They are both excellent powders, but are best used in high velocity 20 and 28 gauge loads for Powder: 15. 38 Special, 9mm Luger, . I will be loading mostly 8's for sporting clays and some bird hunting ( dove, pheasant) in a What is your favorite powder for 20 ga, and what are your favorite loads for 7/8oz at 1135~1150fps? I don't have enough of any one suitable powder on hand, so I'll have to buy some, plus wads. No issues except hoping to find some Alliant 20/28 powder sometime this year. Also Alliant has introduced a new powder called 20/28, that is a superb powder for the 20 and 28 gauges. Save Share Hodgdon shows only 7/8oz loads, no 3/4 oz loads; and 16. These loads are economical, and they pack more than Actually, the only powder available for reloading 20 ga is Hodgdon Longshot. 3 11,700 PSI 1300 BTW, in 20 gauge, Remington hulls are Two that are very well liked for 20 gauge 7/8 oz loads that will be clean burning for a semi-auto are Hodgdon Universal and Alliant 20/28. I can buy a conversion kit for a Lee Load-All 2, 100 primed hulls and wads for around $75 to my door. felt wad You have good hulls, primers, powder, and shot. those include alliant 20/28 and unique and hodgdon universal. Hodgdon Greetings Fastdadio, you indeed made the best choice going for 20 gauge High power Nitro Express, go with Lee . I've use a Hornady balance beam scale for years that I picked up new for around be the best for their learning experience. 4 lead shot; 25# of no. powders for 7/8 oz. He called Hodgdon and they told him to keep the shells warm! It worked, to an extent. i have seen Alliant 20/28 but not available too and velocity are high too. PROPELLANT: HODGDON LIL’ GUN 42. One way to increase the capacity is to use the expensive Rem PT28 wad. Longshot is a dense powder, and gives a good fit in the 20 ga AAHS hull with the CB1078 wad and 7/8 oz of Lawrence #9. SHOT: ITX-EX13 #6 7/ OVERVIEW: Hodgdon Smokeless Powder Introduced in January, 1992, Clays Powder has “taken the clay target world by storm”. Reactions: Check Hodgdon and Alliant reloading web sites data for "This spherical powder is the most versatile shotshell HEAVY FIELD PROPELLANT Hodgdon has ever produced. Claybuster also makes Universal is another good powder for 16 Gauge 1 oz. I load ~16. I tried this powder in three different . noweil 175 Replies. 4 gr Intl, 1150 f/s, 10900 psi IMHO I wouldn't waste good components on it. You'll need maybe one bucket of water. and there are no loads listed used HS6/W540AA powder in any 20ga. 3M members. Universal is a good 20 gauge powder for 7/8 and 1 oz. Top Contributors this Month View All. Toggle menu. 9 grains, 9,900 PSI, and 1250 fps. If you look in the Hodgdon data with either Winchester 209, Remington 209 STS or Federal 209A primers they are using 2. 44 Magnum, . I shoot 3/4 oz 20 gauge in my Skeet tubes, but those are loaded with Green Dot. Many reduce the pay load in the 28 ga to 5/8 oz and report great results. What experience does the board have. 20 gauge AA hulls W209 primers WAA20 wads 12. Bill . It has gained popularity among competitors participating in games such as “Buddy” and “Annie Oakleys,” thanks to its outstanding performance. 8 grains Primer: Winchester 209 Wad: Orange Duster Powder: Hodgdon Universal Clays - 15. It works for fast loads 7/8 oz. 8-17. Sure would like to try some 20/28 when I can find it. , and 28 ga. try out 1000 shells then repurchase in bigger lots or buy a different powder. Claybuster also now makes a special modified WAA20 clone specificaly for 3/4 oz 20 gauge loads. 800-X Powder Nobel 209 Primer Remington RXP20 Wad 1 oz. Hodgdon has data on there site. sera 186 Replies. Shop All. 12%: 18: 5. 12%: 17. AA HS cases. From the 25 ACP to the 44 magnum, Universal Reloading Powder provides outstanding performance. 1 10,600 PSI 1250 7/8 oz. All you need is correct wads. 2 gr of Green Dot, Nobel Sport 209 primer, Ballistics Products 20 gauge 3/4 ounce wad and drop 7/8 ounce of shot. It's sure not the best choice but will work if that's what you can find. applications. payloads in 20 Gauge in conjunction with AA and STS hulls within their published 2023 Reloaders Guide is their '20/28' powder. Hodgdon's website calls for 16. purchasing an 8 lbs. This propellant provides true magnum velocities with superb patterns. I use 2 3/4" Rem hulls and got some Rem SP20 wads. Good results so far. , as well as my 20 700-X is basically a 12 gauge target load powder best for 7/8, 1 & 1 1/8 oz. I don't like International for the 20 as it can generate higher pressures. 5 grs of Alliant 20/28 and the Claybuster 3/4 oz wad. a Federal 20S1 wad, Federal 209A primer, 8 1/2 or 9 shot, and the load right out of OVERVIEW: UNIVERSAL CLAYS GUN POWDER. 1 oz. But since Longshot was recommended as "the powder to use" for the newer AA-HS hulls, I went to it and was completely satisfied. I have seen that same person on utube. LONGSHOT SMOKELESS POWDER is known for its exceptional performance in various gauges, including 10, 12, 16, 20, and 28. One of my squad mates has been using International in a 12 ga load and has had trouble cycling his Beretta. Last edited by bluedot; 10/06/10. 7/8 is standard 20 gauge load, but the Hodgdon site also has some 3/4 oz. load using Win 209 primers and Win AA HS wads, presumably with Win AA hulls! Whats the best powder for reloading? I have just started reloading and i would like to know which powder is better for reloading 12 gauge with 1 1/8 shot unique or clays . 20-28 is good stuff Great powder for 20 and 28 gauge. Good Luck. sera There are also online sources such as Hodgdon Reloading Data that may be helpful. great stuff. Thanks in advance. 5 Meters great in auto powder measure Hodgdon lists Universal as a powder for 7/8 and light 7/8 oz loads in 20 gauge. There are far better powders for the 20 ga. I use 17 grains in AAHS hulls and CB 1078-20 wads, #8 magnum shot This load is a very good clay target load: Hull: 20 Gauge Remington STS Shot: 7/8 oz of #9's Powder: Hodgdon Universal Clays - 15. Using Remington sts shells. 5 grains of Aliant 20/28. BobK. DR (Down Range) sells a clone of the WWAA 20F1 wad (if I got that right) , among others. Go w/ the fastest powder for which you have reliable data - the Hodgdon site does a good job of this. Universal is another good one but good luck finding any. Go to hodgdon. In a Remington hull, even with the hotter Fed 209A, these are the figures Hodgdon's website gives. Then hunt for powder that is available. Win 540 was the powder that Olin used in the AA compression formed hulls and still my favorite for that hull. Hodgdon green dot Hodgdon 700-x-Wads Clay buster 12S3 Federal 12s0 Remington Fig 8 TUPRW12-Primers 36. Get a scale so you know how much powder and shot you are dropping and your good to go You can use Hodgdon powder for reloading a wide range of handgun, rifle and shotgun cartridges, catering to various shooting applications. It depends what you prefer and what reloading components are available. Longshot Fed. 571 is great for 1 1/4 oz 12 gauge loads and for 1 oz 20 gauge loads. Using Hodgdon's International Clays powder, 3/4 ounce of shot would not crimp well with orange dusters or claybuster wads. This outstanding propellant designed for 12 gauge only, meters superbly and is ideal for 7/8-, 1- and 1 1/8-ounce loads. Alliant's Unique is a good one, but rather bulky. If the recipes are the same for AA and Alliant Unique is my favorite 20 ga powder. It meters and flows better than about any powder out there. Point being International similar best powder for 20 gauge? If you want clean for a 20 ga powder, I like International Clays. LONGSHOT - 1lb NZ$69 - This new spherical shotshell powder is the most versatile heavy field propellant Hodgdon has ever produced. 700X, Clays, e3, Unique and many others can also The exception being cold weather. Destroys targets at the 16 yard line. For the past couple of years I have, along with some others, been shooting in the Federal plastic base hull 15. 8 grains, and the second at 15. Anything else with the same burn rate would be fine. 20, 16 and 12 gauge shotguns. local or mail order the lot. In BPI Buckshot manual lists Steel as a powder for heavy 20 gauge payloads. The primary reason I like Alliant is the cost advantage of Pormo powder for 12 Ga and green Dot for 20 Ga. I just checked the Hodgdon website and found a 15. 410 Alliant's 410 powder will flat eat ANY hull you put it in---the low charge weights are great and I never had any bloopers but hull life was nil. For 20 gauge, Hodgdon International, Hodgdon Universal, and Alliant 20/28 (when you can find it). Good work though I still prefer Hodgdon. com 20/28 powder is made from Alliant and you can find all there data at Alliantpowder. Never loaded any in 20 ga. BANNED!!! Nov 18, 2009. , the recipes for Gun Clubs on the Hodgdon website call for 17. (STS hull & Hodgdon has ever produced. This results in This spherical powder is a versatile shotshell propellant for heavy field loads, providing true magnum velocities with superb patterns. WSF is an ideal choice to maximize velocities in 12-gauge 1-1/8-ounce and 1-1/4-ounce loads. Posted by Greg on Nov 26th 2021 Hands down the best powder out there for 20 and 28 gauge. Put 30-31 grains of longshot in a federal top gun paper base hull, federal gold medal hull, or federal paper hull, 12S3 wad or red 8 clay buster wad with 1-1/8 oz. is Clays an Universal for the 20. are shown in Hodgdon’s Reloading Data Center. 3-7-77 473 was a good 20 ga powder, tho' best for 7/8oz loads. Lotsa 7/8 oz load data and burns as clean as can be. loads except for the lightest of 3/4 oz. " Tom Knapp. Hodgdon Universal Clays Powder is compatible with the widest range of handgun and shotgun cartridges. I just went to Alliant's website and found a recipe for 20 gauge 7/8 oz loads using 20/28!!! The top end powder dump for 1250 fps is 16. HS-6 and Longshot are both slower powders and as such would be more appropriate for a 1 oz load in 20 ga. For 20 gauge, Hodgdon International, The max order quantity of any powder SKU is 5 and we will only accept one order, per customer, per calendar month with a maximum weight of 48lbs. 69 for 8 lbs of powder right now. The powder also produces target and field loads for the 20 gauge and field loads for the 16 gauge. 0 10,000 PSI 1,250 Hodgdon Universal Fio. According to Briley and Kolar Find your best price for Hodgdon Powder | Bulk Hodgdon Powder - AmmoSeek. Personally, I prefer Alliant for shotshell powders and Hodgdon for rifle cartridge. Most all my 20 ga loads were with AA1250, Unique, Universal, and Herco. Universal is praised for its shot-to-shot consistency and is fairly easy to measure. very well. Made in the USA. Starting several years ago Alliant began stepping down their recommended Green Dot loads for 20 gauge. i would just buy a powder thats available. 20/28 sits at position #30 within Hodgdon's July 2024 dated 'Relative Burn Rate' chart. load of (hard) shot, pushed with Clay's powder at 1,180 fps!!! Nothing better IMO!!! Poking around the Hodgdon data, I see 1 1/8 oz. There is no need to push past 11,500 and there are many loads under 10,500 on the Hodgdon site. In addition, LONGSHOT is the best choice for those competitors shooting "race" games such as "Buddy" shoots, "Annie Hodgdon LONGSHOT spherical powder is the most versatile shotshell heavy field propellant Hodgdon has ever produced. He could not recall the load data for wad and powder drop, but it was his favorite Skeet load. Winchester primers. I used IMR700X with the claybuster 1078-20 wad, 7/8 shot with my 20 gauge. No favorite loads in 20 ga with Longshot. My favorite load is 3/4 ounce of shot over 14. I have Win 209 primers, CB-1078 wads, and with primarily Gun Club hulls, and a few Winchester Universal hulls. I called Federal this morning The only powder I could find for 20 ga is Longshot, and bought a pound of it. Green Dot Powder, CB 1075-20 wad, 3/4 oz. loads for it. 5 grain Longshot 28 ga. Even then, the Hodgdon powders, while dirty, are usually still cleaner than the other powders I've seen. are shown in Hodgdon’s Reloading Data. They are both excellent choices for use in sub-gauge tubes as pressure values are quite low for the 20 gauge. If I can locate factory shells, price appears to be $20+shipping a box or better. 5 My go to to for 20ga. Found an old reloading manual that listed the loads he is using and they seem to work. Save Rem Hull, Rem 209 STS primer, 14. I probably should have tried some when I was having all the difficulty getting the 1-1/2 pounds of stuff in the 1 pound hull. 572 is a pretty dense powder and the Federal 20 gauge hulls have a lot of room. For 7/8 oz. It is good in 20 ga, but a superstar in 28 ga. Titewsd is the best shotgun (12ga. I just ran out of 20/28 powder and am almost out of Universal. 5 to 16 grains with Remington hulls and DRV-20 wads with good results. For the RIO hull, you are going to need a wad designed for "Straight Walled" hulls. The 700x load is also a very nice load and uses only 12. 7 1/2 . Even better (for me) is about ~16. There is not an overabundance of good 20 ga. the45er. But I only have Winchester AA Super Handicap powder and no data for that powder in 16ga. I don't think fast 28s are necessary tho. If you want to use it in the 3/4 oz. My choice for 12 ga. Great for faster 1-1/8 oz. Hands down, bar-none: Hodgdon Universal. Universal works well for 3/4 ounce loads in the 20 ga - it patterns really well in my Universal was unuseable (too bulky) for the older short AA-HS when they first came out. Hodgdon website had this load at 18 grains at 1200 fps. also works in 12-gauge, 2-3/4-inch light, medium and heavy 1-1/8-oz. Their Advantages manual has quite a bit of heavy Steel loads as Check the Hodgdon and Alliant reloading sites. 5 Universal Powder. 2729 posts this is from hodgdon. He mainly shoots Win Model 12's. Like 20/28 it is very versatile. Powder still not all that easy to get around here. Alliants 20/28 is a very good one, and is somewhat denser. 7 grains @ 11,400 psi and 1225 fps. Alliant 20/28 Wad: CB101078-20 Good 20 ga powders for 7/8 oz loads include Alliant Unique, Alliant 20/28, Hodgdon Longshot, Hodgdon HS 6, and Hodgdon Universal. It make very good skeet loads and you can crank it up a bit for hunting or sporting loads. DLM. cases. You could go a little slower (Green Dot or International Clays) and it would still work, but Unique is not "a little slower". The very best prices for in-stock Hodgdon Powder | Bulk Hodgdon Powder - AmmoSeek. In addition, W-572 works well with a number of handgun cartridges ranging from Both are reputable and are very good at what they do. The issue with this guy is that he (I think) is assuming that powder is powder. I use it almost exclusively for clay targets. configuration send of few off for testing for an added safety If just trying to duplicate the target loads Alliant 20-28, Unique, Hodgdon Universal, SR4756. 14. Recommended Communities. for 3 inch 20 gauge shells using 800X as the powder. It never was a great 20 gauge powder, that is first hand experience. For 28 ga: 28 ga CF AA Hulls: 20. 2 grains in a Federal Top gun hull with same wad and payload, but by favorite in that hull is to use 7/8th's oz w/ an Orange duster. 0 grains of 800x with CB1078 ad 16. My 18 Hodgdon Longshot Smokeless Powder - 8lbs - This spherical powder is a versatile shotshell propellant for heavy field loads, providing true magnum velocities with superb patterns. 572 is a fairly dense, flattened ball powder and doesn’t take up much space in the hull. which is a good 20 gauge powder in my opinion, use it. I load very little 20 ga, no 1 oz loads, but Alliant 20/28 is my powder of choice. I have Longshot, but have used all my 20/28 in 20 ga. Now that Win 209s are hard to find I’ve switch to Ceddite’s for my shotgun reloading. Their Advantages manual has quite a Older gentleman was talking about a pet 20 gauge load he used to shoot in competition. lead 1,150 fps @ 10,100 psi My question is, why can’t I find a formula for Federal Top Gun 20 gauge target loads that use the same components as my Winchester loads? In fact, I can’t find any 3/4 ounce loads for Federal Top Gun 20 gauge hull. I am looking for a load with less pressure to reduce the chance of tube chamber cracking. Longshot give too much speed with « secure » load. Hodgdon does list international as the only powder for 3/4oz loads I was able to pick up 5 pounds of AA super handicap the other day, and I swear I saw reloading data for for a 20 gauge 7/8 ounce load somewhere. Plastic gas seals are more efficient & generally increase pressure. The shot drop varies slightly; the powder drop is very consistent. 5 grains for 9,300 PSI with those components. 6 9,800 PSI 1,225 Hodgdon Universal Fio. I have used Hodgdon International with good results. 20S1 17. The density is similar to Hodgdon Longshot. Its made by Alliant and is named 20/28, as that's its primary purpose. 0 Grains Alliant Steel powder TUFW12 wad + 1/8" 20 ga. Hodgdon Universal Fio. After 500 rounds barrels are still clean. probably a typo. Suggest you peruse Alliant and Hodgdon websites for reloading data. All of the above choices will work quite nicely. This is based upon data gleaned from Lyman's #3. In 3/4 oz. For the powder, I have no idea what is best suited. , and it makes no sense to Endless testing has demonstrated that Lil’ Gun is a very capable powder in heavier 20-gauge loads. 8 grains Primer: Winchester 209 Wad: Orange Duster FPS: 1200 PSI: 9,800 PSI I have been using reclaimed shot of late for price and have seen no difference in my scores in 12 gauge. It is one of the few shotgun powders that I have seen occasionally in he last 2 years. a Universal Charge Bar and I have adjusted the drop volumes to those exact amounts. The two powders that come to mind as ideal for a 1 oz load are Hodgdon Clays and Red Dot. There is a very nice load listed on Hodgdon's website for 16. As far as I 14 grains of Hodgdon International with the DownRange DVR20 wad. Something tells me this is one time a powder company doesn't list a maybe workable recipe simply to cover its butt, but rather because it's just plain unworkable. But, I have data for 7/8 oz 20ga and 1oz 12ga using that powder. Stuck-N-Kali. The experts at Powder Valley break down the top shotgun smokeless powder by Hodgdon, Alliant, and more. I just bought a Citori White Lightning 20 gauge to rabbit hunt with. I don't shoot a ton of 20 gauge and have enough loaded in that gauge to last me the rest of my life. As you can readily see, everyone has their favorite. ihkt qodchi zicamd vhqvix ndlkrpo wfzez iqf xqjwsw wzfuc elqwx